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% of small businesses, but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure that the wealthier are paying a little bit more and combine that with spending cuts to reduce our deficit and put our economy on a long-term trajectory of growth. we have been talking to the republicans ever since the election was over. they have had trouble saying yes to a number of repeated offers. yesterday i had another meeting with the leadership, and i suggested to them if they can't do a comprehensive package of smart deficit reduction, let's, at minimum, make sure that people's taxes don't go up and that 2 million people don't lose their unemployment insurance. and i was modestly optimistic yesterday, but we don't yet see an agreement. and now the pressure's on congress to produce. if they don't, what i've said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle-class taxes stay where they are, and there should be an up-or-down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. but i actually think that
. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, we should make sure that the wealthier are paying a little bit more and combine that with spending cuts to reduce the deficit and put our economy on a long-term trajectory of growth. you know, we have been talking to the republicans ever since the election was over. they have had trouble saying yes to a number of repeated offers. yesterday i had another meeting with the leadership, and i suggested to them if they can't do a comprehensive package of smart deficit reduction, let's at minimum make sure that people's taxes don't go up and that 2 million people don't lose their unemployment insurance. and i was modestly optimistic yesterday. but we don't yet see an agreement, and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i've said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are, and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. you know, if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. but i actually think that ther
and the preference of a larger agreement. a larger deal. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. it is not just deal with tax and the deals with spending and a balanced way so that we can put all of this behind us and just focus on growing our economy. with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. maybe we can do it in stages. we're going to solve this problem instead and several steps. last year in 2011 we started reducing the deficit to one trillion dollars in spending cuts. those have already taken place. the agreement being worked on right now would further reduce the deficit by asking the wealthiest 2 percent of americans to pay higher taxes for the first time in two decades. that would add hundreds of billions of dollars to deficit reduction. that is progress. we're going to need to do more. keep in mind that just last month republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. obviously the agreement that is currently being discussed would raise those rates and raise th
on debt and deficits. we kept on pushing it off, pushing it off into the future. now we are right at the point where we have to make a decision on debt, dficits and spending and all we're talking about is a deal on taxes. it seems very likely that tax rates on higher income people will go up. we know for a fact that social security taxes will go up tomorrow, and some obamacare taxes they kick in as well tomorrow morning. so all we're talking about at the moment is raising taxes, we are doing nothing on deficit, debt and spending, that means this wrangling, this mess will continue. rick: child tax credits get extended according to some reports now. the earned income tax credit gets he can tended. the college tax credit gets extended for another five years, these are all things that cost u.s. taxpayers a lot of money, and it's probably just the beginning. >> it sounds like they are throwing a lot of items into the tax basket. i'd like to hear what they are going to say about the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax is that included in this tax basket? you'll notice, rick all t
on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, one of the questions in the days ahead will be whether or not this strategy back fired because republican leaders on the hill had their feathers ruffled by the fact that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great question, but age before beauty. >> a lot of age and no
deficit and debt and then a more recent one that passes an extension of all the bush tax cuts. so the their position right now, at least speaker boehner's is, hey, it is time for the senate to act on some of our bills. we'll keep an eye what is happening there. heather: busy day for them. president obama taking his case to the american public. here is what he had to say about the situation playing out on capitol hill. >> what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington and if, you know, people start to see that on january 1st this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction we could have had, the republicans been willing to take the deal i gave them, if they say, that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, obviously that will adverse reaction in the markets. heather: there is lot at stake for all americans. three big issues on the financial front this morning as a matter of fact,. stu varney, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network joins us now. stu, no deal on capitol hi
hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction that we could have had had the republicans been willing to take the deal that i gave them, if they say that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, then, obviously, that's going to have an adverse reaction in the markets. >> what about automatic spending cuts? those take effect january 1st, as well. do they have to be part of this deal? you've got half of those cuts in defense law? >> well, congress agreed they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now, if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what is so-called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts, and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but, you know, so far, at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff
agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain or whatever you want to call it, that solves the deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that does not just deal with taxes but also spending so that we can put all this behind us and focus on growing our economy. with this congress, that was obviously too much to hope for at this time. [laughter] maybe we can do it in stages. we will solve this problem instead in several steps. in 2011, we started reducing the deficit through $1 trillion in spending cuts which have taken place. the agreement being worked on right now would further reduce the deficit by asking the wealthiest 2% of americans to pay higher taxes for the first time in two decades so that would add additional hundreds of billions of dollars to deficit reduction. that is progress but we will need to do more. keep in mind that just last month, republicans in congress of they would not agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans and the agreement being discussed would raise those rates permanently. [applause] keep in mind, we will still have more work to do. we still ha
go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. this is a fast-moving story. give us the latest perimeters of what appears -- i emphasize appears to be the start of a deal. >> well, it has been coming closer together, so we are told. the question is wha
graham, what will we do with the money, what will i say. >> it is added to make up the deficit that everyone has been discussing -- >> it goes for -- >> not new spending. you know, you gets down to another thing, which was a very bad idea, and that is sequester. and whether sequester goes into effect or not. >> chris: well, that -- >> that is the 800 pound gorilla. >> chris: let me ask you about that. i enjoyed your brief state as the host of fox news sunday. >> i think it is a good jeegs i do, too. senator graham, all washington has been talking about is the tax side of the cliff. let's talk about intending side of the cliff, there is still as part of the cliff, $110 billion sequestered. automatic cuts, defense cuts, domestic cuts. what will happen to that? will you address that? >> we'll -- i called leon panetta, last night during dinner. >> chris: secretary of defense. >> and he said, i have been told there will be nothing in the bill to avoid sequestration going into effect and this is the failure of the super committee to find $1.2 trillion in cuts for the debt ceiling inc
, now he's mad at howard schultz because he wants to, i don't know, do something with the deficit near term. can we go another five years without having some kind of reckoning in the bond market or somewhere else? >> you know, the european crisis has been quite instructive for my mind in this. but the reality is democracies don't really take tough decisions until they're put under enormous pressure from some external factor, in this case, the stock market. i find myself -- and i still think it today -- that oddly in the events of europe come out of the germans next door with something much more clear about a nurch path of the eurozone, and so people did start to believe the euro is a true global reserve currency to compete with the u.s., that might be the point where the u.s. starts to come under sear use pressure from the markets. of course wrb to some degree, the past -- well, longer, going back to august of last year, the u.s. had this strange benefit that this persisting european crisis is around and sort of global investors can't deal with two huge clem mas at the same time. but i
to do with the money, what do i say? >> well, what you say is that this is added to make up the deficit that everyone has been discussing. >> chris: so not new spending. goes for deficit reduction. >> not new spending. you get down to another thing which was a very bad idea and sequester and whether that goes into effect or not. that is the 800-pound gorilla. >> chris: let me ask you about that. i enjoyed your brief stand as host of fox news. >> i thought it was a good question. >> chris: it was a good question, too. all washington has been talking about has been the tax side of the cliff. let's talk about the spending slide of the cliff. there is still as part of the cliff $110 billion sequester, automatic cuts. defense cuts. domestic cuts. what is going to happen to that? are they going to address that? >> i was called by leon panetta last night at 7:30 during dinner. >> chris: secretary of defense. >> and he said i was told there will not be anything in the deal to avoid se sequestration from going into effect. half of the 1.2 falls on defense. we already cut $489 billion. he says if
of representatives in the senate. they have to be taken into the -- >> did is it reduce the deficit, which is the whole point of this in the first place, right? >> about $1 billion maybe. >> republicans are essentially arguing against deficit reduction. they're looking for higher thresholds, which curtail deficit reduction. i want to ask you this, because isn't there a philosophical sort of win for the democrats anyway because this will be the first time republicans were enacting a tax increase, you know, since biggie and tupac were alive? septemb isn't that a win? >> yes, that is a win. i think that a lot of this could come down to this paired down democratic plan that could come up on the senate floor. if everything else goes out the window, it's the strictly $250,000 threshold, you know, extend unemployment insurance, and come up with a broader plan and punt everything else. >> does it get to the house? can that get through the house? >> right. >> the house people are telling me, house republicans are telling me, that if the margin in the senate is, like, 70-30, then clearly speaker boe
spending, the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will continue to get bigger." >> reporter: following the president's interview, speaker of the statement saying in part: "republicans made every effort to reach the 'balanced' deficit agreement that the president promised the american people.we've been reasonable and responsible. the president is the one who has never been able to get to 'yes.'" >> "what i ran on, and what the american people elected me to do, was to put forth a balanced approach." >> reporter: despite the on- going blame game, there is consensus on one thing: time is running out. i'm elizabeth corridan reporting. >>> many people are unhappy that a long standing tradition is about to be a thing of the past in san francisco. parking meters will no longer be free on sundays starting in january. kron4's maureen kelly explains how the new parking enforcement plan will work. >> reporter: time is running out for free parking on sunday. starting january 6th the city's nearly 30-thousand meters will start accepting cash and credit.seven days a week. on
our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an emphasis that there are a lot of components here for democrats to like because their focus especially is on making sure that -- because i should say democrats really need to come out in force for this to get across the finish line. what you asked is also what is in this measure. tax increase or taxes to -- would go back to the clinton levels for people who make $400,000 a year, or households that make $450,000 a y
on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly o., i'm looking at the clock, we are now 14 hours and 58 minutes from going over the fiscal cliff. let's outline -- >> reporter: but who's counting, right, chris? >> yeah, who's counting? let's go over for people, what remains unresolved? it seems like two weeks ago they were pretty well set on the basic parameters of this thing, so let's talk about what's left to deal on? >> reporter: well, there are some significant differences, but there has been progress. i've been talking to sources who say that the vice president and mitch mcconnell stayed on the phone exchanging calls until around midnight last night and that staffers who are key to this process continue talking after that. as you know, there are very few people in the room, so to speak, who really have their fingerprints on whatever deal may eventually come and what has been passed between the two sides so far. about six proposals back and forth, and i
. >> if we are going to be serious about the deficit and debt reduction, then it's going to have to be a matter of shared sacrifice. at least as long as i'm president. i am going to be president for the next four years. >> president obama said a deal is in sight and appeared at a campaign style event to remind everyone he is winning and g.o.p. is not. >> last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. the agreement currently discussed would raise those rates, raise them permanently. >> republicans suggest the event may backfire to accuse the republican of rubbing their nose in defeat. >> the president won. we know that. he won fair and square. isn't it now time to govern? >> the president was out of line with his comments at 1:30 afternoon. this is a delegate time. i think the democrats would be embased after what the president did. >> after months of the president promising a balanced approach there are only tax hikes for rich without new spending cuts. today he hinted at more tax hikes ahead. warning republicans th
the deficit $23 billion. the last farm bill we passed that was completely paid for at my insistence as budget committee chairman. everybody else was functioning we faced up to reality. secto in this farm bill, even far more in the way of deficit reduction. it demonstrates this is possible to do. but you have got to have leadership. and you've got to have people who are willing to make some tough decisions to get it done. >> we have about five minutes. i want to talk a little more personal. you have decided to leave your papers of public service to george washington university. why is that? >> i got my master's in business there. they have tremendous resources there to take advantage of this collection, which is loaded with history. >> what kind of things will researchers and historians find? >> the will find that tim conrad has had a single-minded focus on fiscal responsibility for 26 years. [laughter] my staff says that a remarkable thing in looking at this collection is how consistent i have been but pay attention to fiscal responsibility and making sure that certain things add up. they say
just passed reduces the deficit $23 billion. the last farm bill that we passed that was completely paid for at my insistence as budget committee chairman. if everyone else were functioning the way the agricultural sector has would not have the budget problem. we faced up to reality. we had more pay fors than expenses. in this bill even far more in the way of deficit reduction. it demonstrates this is possible to do. but you got to have leadership and you got to have people who are willing to make some tough decisions to get it done. >> we have about five minutes and i want to talk more personal. you have decided to leave your papers of your quarter century plus to george washington university. why is that? >> i went to george washington university. they have tremendous resources there to take advantage of this collection which is loaded with history. >> what kind of things will researchers and historians find? >> i will find a single-minded focus on fiscal responsibility for 26 years. my staff says the remarkable thing i am looking at this collection is how consistent i have been about.
that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. there is a basic fairness that is at stake in this whole thing. >> reporter: republicans say to be fair the president must focus on entitlement reform to reduce the deficit. >> are you prepared to do that in your first year of the second term? >> what i said is i'm prepared to do everything i can to make sure medicare and social security are there not just for this generation but for future generations. >> reporter: the president said despite the current gridlock he remains optimistic but asserted democracy is messi. >> one way or another we'll get through this. do i wish that things were more orderly in washington? and ration enamel? and people listened to the best arguments and compromised and operate in a more thoughtful and organized fashion? absolutely. when you look at history that's the exception rather than the norm. >> now here is your "first look" at politics. long lines in florida discouraged 49,000 people in voting. on "meet the press" tom brokaw says there's a simple explanation for what'
burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. there is a basic fairness that is at stake in this whole thing. >> reporter: republicans say to be fair, the president must focus on entitlement reform to reduce the deficit. >> are you prepared to do that in your first year of the second term? >> what i've said is i am prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation but for future generations. >> reporter: the president said despite the current gridlock, he remains optimistic but also asserted democracy is messy. >> one way or another, we'll get through this. do i wish that things were more orderly in washington and rat n rational and people listened to the best arguments and compromised and operated in more thoughtful and organized fashion? absolutely. but when you look at history, that's -- that's been the exception rather than the norm. >> that was nbc's kristin welker reporting there. >>> now for a look at your new year's eve weather, here's nbc meteorologist bill karins. good
the deficit by slowing social security. >> there is a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see tax increases used for new spending. >> reporter: vice president joe biden was called on to help with the negotiations, this as the white house places a lot of the blame for the impasse on the gop. >> they say their biggest prior is making sure we deal with a deficit in a serious way. but the way they are behaving is their only priority is making sure tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: if a deal isn't reached the president wants to introduce legislation to keep tax cuts for couples earning up to $250,000 a year and to keep unemployment benefits. randall pinkston, cbs news, washington. >> if you want the latest information on the fiscal cliff, you go to our home page just click the fiscal cliff banner at the top of the page. >>> dc police are investigating two fatal shootings in southeast over the weekend. early yesterday morning officers found a man unconscious in the 3400 block of crawford place. angelo alphonso pane later died at th
. >> you can present with princreased pressure, seizures, convulsions, focal deficits so it deis possible that any damage can be a problem, but in this case, there was no focal deficit, the person was normal. >> second clinton's doctors say that to help the clot dissolved, they are treating her with blood thinners. >>> still ahead, it is time to say so long to 2012, and hello to 2013. coming up, people have already started to pile into times square for tonight's big ball drop. we'll take you live to new york city when the news edge returns. irene, drop the itch. we dropped the itch, you can too. with maximum strength scalpicinĀ®. it's not a shampoo so you can stop intense itch fast, wherever you are. i dropped the itch. free yourself from embarrassing scalp itch. drop the itch with maximum strength scalpicinĀ®. also available scalpicinĀ® 2 in 1, itch relief plus dandruff control. >>> so where will you be withl the ball drops tonight? nearly 1 million people are expected to crowd that times square in new york city. craig boswell was live. has the party started yet? >> reporter: it certainl
economy two to three, four years. no deal is only shot we have. we need cuts and deal with the deficit. you have can't do this in a way to do in a sudden flash. >> juan -- >> juan: hold on. excuse me. do you think republicans have no complicity in passing two wars without funding them? and passing prescription drugs, no funding -- >> andrea: last time i checked a majority of democrats voted if for war. >> juan: republicans voted for this as well is all my point. >> andrea: entitlement, they're not miles apart? >> juan: they're not. >> andrea: what is the plan. >> juan: put on the table change the cpi and change the rate of growth. >> what table? >> eric: slow the rate of growth is not a cut. >> juan: it is. >> eric: it's not. >> juan: even boehner says it's a cut. the left thinks it's a cut. secondly, the president has -- go up to 400 if you want. so what we are talking about is a cut for 99% of americans. they keep tax cuts. you think republicans would celebrate. >> drinking the kool-aid. >> eric: i agree with you that the republicans are no better in this debate. >> juan: oh, well th
nothing on entitlement reform, it doesn't come close to reducing the deficit, much less the $16 trillion debt, soon-to-be $18 trillion debt. so i'm not going to vote for a pan sea. i'm not going to go around washington and hope the editorial boards are happy and pat each other on the back. your viewers ought to demand a solution. and what we are going to do in the next week is a deal. and they deserve better than a deal. >> you know what is disconcerting, the millions of americans that can't afford to go on vacation that are worried about their tack pass and finances and how to feed their family and how to write those checks for the bills that they know are coming. and yet then you have members of congress and such going on vacation, even the president himself. we would all like to go to hawaii but honestly it was very upsetting. so many people i talked to over the holidays they are saying what are they doing? they should be sitting there doing the tough work we pay them to do, representing us in their various districts and states. >> the optics are terrible, but here's the reality, kimb
. >> this is a manufactured crisis. we don't have a short-term deficit problem. we have a jobs and growth problem and we have a faltering recovery. we should put off the sequester. put off this grand bargain. come back. let the bush tax cuts expire. make sure the middle class doesn't have to pavement the schif a manufactured media drama. >> laura: wow, can you say out of touch? joining us now from new york is maxwell a democratic strategist and guy benson the political editor for "town hall.com." okay. this is quite something. we have been hearing from the obama white house, the congressional budgetffice and any number of conservative economistst that this is serious. that we have got to get this thing done that we have got to get it in order. or at some point america's full faith and credit is going to go away. we are not going to look so good to the rest of the world as far as credit risk. so let's talk to you about this. is this a manufactured media crisis or does something substantial need to be done here? >> well, i certainly think that the fiscal cliff, that language is a manufactured media narrative.
. the real cliff will come if we fail to deal with our debt and deficit. we just can't do that. >> that -- >> i don't like the content of the sequester. i do think it inordinately hits defense but that is something we can negotiate once we get into the new year. but to turn off those cuts would be just a frank admission we can't cut spending ever. i think the markets will respond very negatively to that and as well they should. >> you've also said republicans are resigned to seeing some sort of income tax hike. i wonder what is acceptable to you. we've heard 400,000, we've heard 450,000. is there a point at which it's a point of no return for you? >> well, my preference is to leave the rates where they are for everyone. we know that is not going to be the case. the president wouldn't sign such a bill. the democrats in the senate wouldn't pass it. so my goal is to pro-fekt tect y taxpayers as possible from higher tax rates. i don't know where that will be but the truth is that at midnight tonight taxes on everybody go up automatically, so i'll take a deal that can protect lower
. you know, he wants to compromise. again, we've got to close this deficit, and it's done not just by cutting but by putting revenues on the table and asking the wealthiest, which the president is good at saying ask the wealthiest to pay more than their fair share. >> i know there's another issue dear to your heart we want to discuss as well. last week the russian president putin banned all u.s. aadoptions, very much a vindictive measure for something the u.s. had done as well looking to punish those human rights violators from russia. you have been very vocal about this. you have two adopted children yourself. i understand that you've written a letter to president putin to try to get him to change his mind. is there anything that can be done to the nearly 50 pending adoption cases now where american parents have already met what they believe were their russian children? >> i hope so, suzanne. as ayou know, frank and i have two beautiful children aadopted domestically, but there are over 100,000 adoptions in america every year mostly by americans for american children. we have adop
sources are telling me, so they can do some real sort of comprehensive deficit reduction tax reform within a year. they're hoping that their chances will improve with the new congress and with a little bit more time. so that is where things stand right now at the white house. certainly they are hoping that there is a vote in the senate, but as you point out, chris, that is not a guarantee. >> hold on, kristin welker. let me go back to mike viqueira. is there sort of a conventional wisdom at this point when we could see a vote? >> reporter: you know, i'm going to hesitate to get into that. i have got to get out of the prognostication business here, chris, because so much of this is up in the air. i think you'll be heartened to learn that house republican leadership aides watch msnbc and i just received an e-mail emphasizing that there's nothing for the house to vote on. they're sort of sore about this idea that they are the ones sort of taking us over the cliff by not voting tonight. they say that their whip notice said as announced in previous updates, we expect previous votes to be the la
is this because supposed to be a down payment on deficit reduction, and when you think about the things that could be in this bill, whether it's increasing rates for doctors in medicare, as well as possibly delaying the defense sequester, this bill could actually cost money and increase the deficit especially when you're talking about the tax rates. because remember cbo assumes that the tax rates are actually going to go back to clinton rates. so that is going to be a cost there. and that will be a problem in the house if this score comes back as blowing a hole in the deficit that will be a problem getting the votes even if they get a tkaoefrpblgts you're no deal. >> reporter: you're not confident at all that the money they get will be used to pay don't debt. >> i think some of it will. when you think about all the things that could be in this bill there are some pricey price tags here that are going to increase this bill and basically that is going to be a problem when house conservatives hear that this is actually going to increase the deficit. there will also be a problem for the credit rating
of these politicians, mayors, governors should take a half cut pay to pay down the deficit. host: we are going to move on to darwin on the line for independents. caller: it is like the pentelikon, back in 1968 i was even fighting with the pentagon over budgets. you always had to have everything kept the same. nobody was going to change anything because next year there were going to pop everything by 10%. they told you got to worry because you would get 10% more. that goes all the way back to 1968. they just keep dwelling on one thing over and over again. i would like to know from the boston globe or the herald is asking for pictures of -- host: let's move on to del on the line for democrats. caller: this is an outrage that they cannot tax the wealthy by an additional 4%. this is the lowest tax rates that have ever paid in the united states. considering that their incomes are vast compared to what they used to be many years ago when they paid a much higher rate, they are wealthy and they do not want to pay. 4% does not amount to enough to affect the deficit. maybe we ought to consider 15% or something
to worry about and doesn't matter if they sell a lot at the low price. this year, it's deficit and have a lot of inventory. they have gone from managing sales to inventory, that's where the profits go out the window. they want to sell out than sell off. >> more people bought gift cards this year than bought product? >> you tell me, what was on your list this year new and exciting. >> nothing. i wanted socks and shirts. >> you have two things happening, more gift card because nobody knows what to get you- >> and i returned them. >> and they bought you a bad gift so they frankly didn't know what to get you so they foot go something and you will drive more product. >> for $100 go on a gift card how much doesn't get spent? >> 80% don't spend the money and those that do spend spend 116%. stores do like it when they get you in. 16% never get redeemed, money sitting in a drawer. >> marshall, thank you. >> the big old -- what is that a windsor? >> a windsor. double windsor. >> why? >> you try to change the look. don't always want to go narrow. is that a brioni tie? >> what is this a foreign han
across the country. we talk about reducing deficits and having a responsible budget for 20 years. this is actually, it will you go over the cliff and nothing changes, the largest single day of the deficit reduction in world history. it is $600 billion in deficit reduction trust by the turn in the calendar. over the long term, you look at what that does, we are in much better shape over the long term by going off the cliff. the problem is that right now, we are still very slowly recovering from the worst financial crisis it had since the great depression. it probably is not the time to be having such large deficit reduction. that is why we and others have been focused on getting some kind of a larger deal that can ensure we do not have this extensive short-term deficit reduction. if we start to deal with these problems now, we can do so adequately and without too much short-term economic pain and helping the economy. from let's go to patricia oak creek, wisconsin on the democratic line. caller: good morning, and happy new year to the both of you. i feel so sad for our poor country
reduces the deficit $23 billion. the last farm bill that we passed was completely paid for at my insistence, as budget committee chairman. if everybody else were functioning the way the agriculture section has, we would not have a problem. we in the agriculture committee face up to reality. we had more pay-for spend expenses. -- baena expenses. i think it demonstrates this is possible to do. by you've got to have leadership. and you've got to have people who are willing to make some tough decisions to get it done. >> we have about five minutes. you have decided to leave your papers to george washington university. why is that? >> i went to george washington university and got my master's in business there. they are tremendous resources there to take advantage of this collection, which is really loaded with history. >> what kind of things will researchers and historians find in your papers? >> they will find that kent conrad has had a single-minded focus on fiscal responsibility for 26 years. my staff says a remarkable thing in looking at this collection is how consistent i've bee
about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years. we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it will be about a trillion for 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, which they inevitably will, and the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down, the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul ryan agree on, in a crisis situation, only a value-added tax will solve this problem. by raising marginal tax rates to get us out of this potential crisis. so we need very, very steep spending cuts, all of the emphasis and debate has been over marginal tax rates which are really a minor part of the solution, no matter what political strife you happen to be. you have to realize that tremendous spending cuts are necessary and already the -- any changes to social security have been ruled out in a short-term solution and it's going to be v
three month pause or one year pause. can you imagine how much deficit spending we can get in a year without a cap? >> i am thinking the stock market is because we have hours before the i ball drops, the calm before the storm and watch out wednesday. what do you think in. >> well, watch out wednesday, that is the point. if you look at market the last two weeks, people have been selling ahead of the deal so it is a sell the news type of issue. charles hit the point on the head. this is not a tax issue whether it is $450,000 or $500,000 or $1 million. it is the spending issue. the democrats want to raise the debt ceiling and do not want spending cuts cuts and no sequestration. >> what will happen on wednesday? >> again, i want to caution the stock market will not be the best barometer. >> why? i thought the message was always in the markets especially the interest rate. rates were way up. >> but there is in fear on wall street. there is a total disconnect between that and the fact that in some ways all the nonsense makes stocks and hard assets like gold and silver the only way to inves
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